Warming up 400 years of cold cases 🎙

8 questions with true crime podcaster Kate Winkler Dawson

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Dawson and Holes’ new podcast will break down lesser-known cold cases. “These are stories that are not straightforward. They’re complex.” | Photo by Jake Holschuh
Just in time for spooky season, a new, locally made true crime podcast has just hit the virtual shelves.

Buried Bones,” a deep dive into historical crimes, is co-hosted by cold case investigator Paul Holes and Austin author Kate Winkler Dawson.

Dawson is an associate professor of practice at UT Austin and creator of other podcasts, including the laudedTenfold More Wicked.”

The first episode of “Buried Bones” was released this morning, so we spoke with Dawson about the bone-chilling series + what historic crime can teach us.

This interview has been edited for clarity + brevity.

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Dawson and Holes’ new podcast will break down lesser-known cold cases. “These are stories that are not straightforward. They’re complex.”

Photo by Jake Holschuh

What can listeners expect from “Buried Bones?”

We discuss one case per episode, and occasionally we have two-part episodes.

I think of this as when I was a journalist working on a case, and I would have a friend of mine who was a defense attorney or a prosecutor or police officer, and I would sit down with them and just say, “Listen, here’s my story. Let me tell you about it.” And I would sort of unravel it, and they would pipe in.

That’s kind of the way it is with Paul. I don’t tell him all the information. ... And that’s fun, because he’s right sometimes, he’s not right all the time, and he’s frequently surprised by the end of the episode, because these are stories that are not straightforward. They’re complex.

And there’s always a bit of history in there, and that’s where I come in. I’m a crime historian and my books are all narrative nonfiction history views with crime. I’m really interested in crime that’s pre-1970s. I’m not particularly comfortable with having either victims or survivors’ families in close proximity, because I want to make sure that I’m as respectful as possible and have all the right information.

You just might recognize some of the cases on “Buried Bones’” lineup. Click the button below to find out more.
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